Is Chnlove A Scam?
So what is Chnlove? Chnlove is a Chinese dating site. Chnlove is known by a number of names, including China Love and ChineseWomenDate. Unlike other dating sites like Chinese Love Links it’s squarely aimed at the market for Western men seeking Chinese mail order brides. Chinese women can’t sign up to the site themselves. All of the women on the site are supplied by a number of Chinese marriage agencies. These agencies are located throughout China. In major cities there are sometimes half a dozen different agencies. Medium sized cities such as Wuhan or Changsha may only have a couple of agencies supplying ladies.
Like just about every Asian personals site available, Chnlove is totally free to sign up to. Once you log in you get to upload a photo of yourself and fill out your profile. You can also search the profiles of the Chinese women on the site. Chnlove claims there are over 10,000 profiles on the site, so it’s quite likely you’ll find the Chinese woman for you.
If you like one of the ladies on the site you can send her a cupid note free of charge. This alerts the lady to the fact that you’re interested in her. You can also send her an email via the website. The emailing is carried out using an easy to use web based form.
Chnlove differs from many other Asian dating sites in that you have to pay to send an email to a lady. You also have to pay to read her response. This fee pays for translation services. A human translator translates your letter into Chinese. The marriage agency representing the lady then contacts the lady and tells her your message, and asks her for your response.
There are a few good things about this service:
- Wow, you can look for a Chinese wife without knowing a word of Chinese or anything about Chinese culture.
- Chnlove attracts Chinese ladies who don’t know how to use a computer.
- Chnlove helps ladies who don’t speak any English to find a Western husband.
- Paying a couple of credits to contact a lady is a lot cheaper than paying for a monthly membership of another dating site.
In addition, Chnlove itself is much less likely to have out and out scam ladies on it. You’re not very likely to come across African dating site scammers, women acting as paid affiliates for other dating or chat sites, and hopefully you won’t be pestered by prostitutes. Sign up to one of the other Asian dating sites and you’ll soon encounter plenty of these women…
Unfortunately if you start using Chnlove a lot then you’ll soon realise that it could be nothing more than a mail order bride scam. Problems you might encounter at first include:
- Regardless of your own age, you’ll soon get contacted by ladies much younger than yourself.
- There are 10,000 or more ladies on Chnlove. How on earth do you whittle down your shortlist?
- You’ll immediately notice that there are a lot of flawlessly beautiful women on Chnlove. But if you exchange snapshots with the lady you might get photos that make you wonder if you’re actually talking to the same girl!
On the photos, yes most of the photos of the ladies on Chnlove have been airbrushed. It’s not unusual to see 50 year old women who look 25. Having been to China on several occasions I can confirm that Chinese ladies do generally look good in real life. But some of the photos are ridiculous. While not a scam, it is misleading. Sadly other sites like Foreign Ladies and Asian Beauties do much the same. Personally I prefer the natural snapshots the ladies upload themselves on sites like Chinese Kisses and Chinese Cupid.
As to the age difference, yes you have to be suspicious here. Generally speaking Chinese women don’t prefer to marry much older men. Like in all cultures, there are of course gold diggers, so look out for these. As far as Chnlove goes, the emails you get from younger ladies are generally sent out in order to generate translation work for the marriage agencies. Presumably they get a cut of the money you spend sending or receiving letters through the site, so it’s in their interests to market their ladies as widely as possible.
One of the problems is that Chnlove relies on many different Chinese marriage agencies, and these agencies each have many employees. Finding the rogue agencies and employees is a big undertaking. To their credit the agency I had most dealings with were pretty good. I know that the lady I was writing to actually got my messages (I was with her when her agency phoned her up to tell her my message).
Sadly there are too many problems with Chnlove. Look on Romance Scams and Dragon Ladies and you’ll find all kinds of other problems with this site. Particularly scary are the stories where men have spent over $1000 writing to ladies who they think might not even have existed.
One problem that particularly affected me was the fact that I got the same email response twice from the same lady. So that was a wasted credit to read both of those.
I should however point out that I met some very nice ladies on Chnlove. I even visited one in China. Many men have found their Chinese wives on this site.
As to shortlisting your favorite Chinese ladies, I’d say that this is the biggest problem I faced on Chnlove. I’m pretty choosy about who I marry. Being under 40, marriage is an especially big decision for me. Deciding which ladies to visit was working out very expensive for me on Chnlove. In hindsight I’d have been much better off using Chinese Kisses or Chinese Love Links.
Other Chnlove Scams
There are other Chnlove scams you need to be aware of. Actually these are more connected with ladies you could meet through the site rather than problems with Chnlove itself.
The first is that if you visit a lady, DO NOT trust her 100% at first. Be careful where you meet her. The hotel lobby or a restaurant you know near your hotel is a good idea. Here’s a top tip – when you get to China, try to find a location near the hotel where you can take ladies on dates. A restaurant with food you like and an English menu is a good choice.
Be careful if you’re meeting a lady at the marriage agency offices. If you’re hiring their services (such as a translator) then they might try to overcharge you. $10 is a lot of money in China. As soon as you get there, start finding out the price of things.
Occasionally a translator and the lady will be working together to scam you. This is a big tip – NEVER go shopping with a lady or her translator. For first dates, choose restaurants, or tourist attractions like zoos. Never go shopping!
Be aware as well that if the translator is interested in you, she won’t hesitate to tell the lady you’re visiting that you don’t like her. If you feel the translator is becoming interested in you, find another translator.
If all goes well and you propose to the lady, this usually means the marriage agency is due a success fee. Be very careful here. First of all the contract is between the agency and the lady. You did not sign the contact! If you do feel like paying, then remember that everything in China is negotiable. Generally speaking, you shouldn’t pay more than $1000. Ideally pay closer to $400, although $0 is perfectly acceptable. Here’s where having an English speaking Chinese friend is a big advantage to you, so while you’re chatting to Chinese ladies online, make sure you find a trustworthy female best friend who can make sense of Chinese contracts and other baffling documents.
Finally, if you do suspect that you’re being scammed, then do report things to Chnlove. Usually they’ll only refund the credits you paid to contact a particular lady, but at least that’s something.
As to Chnlove, once again I’ll say that there are some great ladies on the site. It’s a good place to find more mature Chinese women online. These ladies don’t tend to speak any English. And without knowing Pinyin or other Chinese character input methods they can’t use a computer either. Sadly finding the right lady for you on Chnlove can take a lot of time (and especially) money. Personally I much prefer Chinese Kisses and Chinese Love Links. There are some fabulous ladies on both these sites, and you can sign up to either for less than around $250 for an entire year.
Have you had any good Chinese dating experiences, or have you experienced nothing but mail order bride scams? Leave your comments below!